azaab e qabr

[mohammad arif ansari]

dose it really happen if yes den what will happen on judgment day .....why will allah subhan watalla[ nause billa] will punish the sinners before his judgment is done for defntly he is d most mercifull.....im confused abt it

[Mohammed Shahid]

Assalam alaikum,

Br.Arif you have started a very good topic for discussion. Im sure many of us have a lot of questions about Azaab-e-Qabr.

Ill post some useful information about it once im at home, InshaAllah.

[mohammad arif ansari]

uwalaikum assalam wa rehmatulla wa barakat
thx bro...m waiting

[Mohammed Shahid]

Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly: it should be noted that what is obligatory upon every believing man and woman is to believe what Allaah tells them in His Book or on the lips of His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) about all matters that have to do with the Hereafter, the Reckoning, Paradise and Hell, or that have to do with death, the grave and torment or blessing in the grave, and all matters of the Unseen that are mentioned in the Noble Qur’aan or in the saheeh reports of the Sunnah. We have to believe and accept that, because we know that our Lord tells the truth in all that He says and tells us about. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“and whose words can be truer than those of Allaah? (Of course, none)”[al-Nisaa’ 4:122]

“And who is truer in statement than Allaah?”[al-Nisaa’ 4:87]

We know that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is the most truthful of people, and that he never spoke on the basis of his own whims and desires; it was Revelation which was revealed to him. Whatever was proven in the saheeh ahaadeeth, it is obligatory to believe in it even if we do not fully understand it. So what we have to do is to believe what has been narrated concerning the matters of the Hereafter and of Paradise and Hell, and the blessings of the people of Paradise and the torments of the people of Hell, and the fact that in the grave a person will be tormented or blessed, and that his soul will return to him. All of this is true and is stated in the texts, so we have to submit to that and believe everything that we learn from the Qur’aan or that is narrated in the saheeh Sunnah or on which the scholars of Islam reached consensus.

If Allaah blesses a believing man or woman with knowledge of the reasons for that, then it is even better, light upon light and knowledge upon knowledge. So let him praise Allaah and give thanks to Him for the knowledge and insight that He has bestowed, thus increasing his knowledge and peace of mind.

With regard to the questioning in the grave and the state of the deceased, this questioning is real. The deceased person’s soul will be restored to him; saheeh reports to that effect have been narrated from the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The life of the deceased in the grave is different from his life in this world; it is a special kind of life in al-barzakh (the interval between his death and the Day of Resurrection) which is not like his life in this world, where he needs food and drink etc. It is a special kind of life wherein he can understand the questions and answers, so the two angels will ask him, Who is your Lord? What is your religion? Who is your Prophet?

The believer will say, My Lord is Allaah, Islam is my religion and Muhammad is my Prophet. This will be the answer of believing men and women. Then he will be asked, What do you know about this man (Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him))? He will say, He is the Messenger of Allaah. He brought us guidance and we believed in him and followed him. It will be said: we knew that you were a believer. Then a gate to Paradise will be opened for him, and he will feel its rest and provision and blessings. It will be said, This is your place until Allaah resurrects you to it. And he will be shown his place in Hell, and it will be said to him, This would have been your place if you had disbelieved in Allaah, but now Allaah has granted you refuge from it and you have ended up in Paradise.

As for the kaafir, he will be asked about his Lord and his religion and his Prophet, and he will say, Oh, oh, I don’t know, I heard the people saying something so I said the same. Then he will be beaten with an iron rod and will utter a scream that will be heard by all things apart from al-thaqalayn, i.e. jinn and men; the animals will hear it. Then a gate to Hell will be opened for him, and his grave will constrict until his ribs intermingle, and his grave will be like one of the pits of Hell. A gate to Hell will be opened for him and he will feel its heat and torment. It will be said, This is your place until Allaah resurrects you to it. Then a door to Paradise will be opened for him and he will be shown his place in Paradise, and it will be said to him, This would have been your place if Allaah had guided you.

From this we know that the grave will be either one of the gardens of Paradise or one of the pits of Hell. The torment or blessing will happen to the body as well as the soul in the grave, and also in the Hereafter, in either Paradise or Hell.

With regard to those who die by drowning or burning, or are eaten by wild animals, their souls will have their share of torment or blessing, and that will come to their bodies on land or in the sea, or in the bellies of the wild animals, as much as Allaah wills. But most of the blessing or torment will come to their souls which remain, either in a state of blessing or a state of torment. The soul of the believer will go to Paradise; the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The soul of the believer is a bird which hangs from the trees of Paradise, eating their fruits; the soul of the kaafir goes to Hell.”

Every Muslim man and woman has to accept what Allaah and His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) have told us, and believe it as it was meant by Allaah, even though some of the meaning may be hidden from us. And Allaah has perfect wisdom, may He be glorified.

Reference: Majmoo’ Fataawa wa Maqaalaat Mutanawwi’ah li Samaahat al-Shaykh al-‘Allaamah ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him), p. 338.

[mohammad arif ansari]

thx alot bro wat a wonderful reply....... plz do correct me if i m wrong
the holy quran states on2 life [ 1 which we al are living in dis world and the 2nd will start when the trumpet will b blown and 70 DEAD WILL B RAISED FROM EACH QABR if 70 dead will b raised from each qabr dat means dey are not alive], and den where is dis 3rd life comes in to exixtence in qabr where only 2 are stated in quran majid..
alhamdullilah what ever was said by our beloved prophet [pbuh] is meant by allah himself..but there are also false and old hadees {which were misintepreted] from time to time .....dats the reason allah subhanwa talha has given us the grey matter which we call as brains to find out and diffrentiate and accept the right hadees from the false and misintepreted 1s otherwise the almighty would have sent such a lovely religion and guidance to gloy to animals [which donot think], why did he choose human to worship and consider him and only him as the saviour almighty.

actually ur answer was satisfactory but above are the queries arised in my mind after goin thru ur reply
assalamwalaikum wa rehamtula wa barakatu

[Mohammed Shahid]

Hmmm..

I need to do some research before giving answer, because I dont want to talk without

knowledge.Will post the answer when I know about it. InshaAllah.

[Mohammed Shahid]

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[shadaab]

As salamu'alaikum ,

How ru Irfan? how is everything there in hyderabad...Hope ur still active in dawah work.

So again this topic started...Azaab e khabar..

One question to both of you..

Is Quran currupted? if not...whats the proof.

T'care.

Allah hafiz.

[Mohammed Shahid]

Walaikum assalam wr wb Shadaab bhai,

Im doing gr8 by the grace of Allah Almighty. Hyderabad is as usual with continued development and constructions going on daily.

With Regards to Corruption of Qur'an:

1) Firstly, The Qur'an in many places challenges the people to produce a surah like it.

The verses of the Qur'an dealing with the challenge are given below (Hilali and Muhsin Khan's Translation):

Say: "If the mankind and the jinns were together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they helped one another." [Qur'an 17:88]

And if you (Arab pagans, Jews, and Christians) are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down (i.e. the Qur'an) to Our slave (Muhammad Peace be upon him ), then produce a surah (chapter) of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides Allah, if you are truthful. [Qur'an 2:23]

And this Qur'an is not such as could ever be produced by other than Allah (Lord of the heavens and the earth), but it is a confirmation of (the revelation) which was before it [i.e. the Taurat (Torah), and the Injeel (Gospel), etc.], and a full explanation of the Book (i.e. laws and orders, etc, decreed for mankind) - wherein there is no doubt from the the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns,and all that exists).

Or do they say: "He (Muhammad(P)) has forged it?" Say: "Bring then a surah (chapter) like unto it, and call upon whomsoever you can, besides Allah, if you are truthful!" [Qur'an 10:37-38]

Or they say, "He (Prophet Muhammad(P)) forged it (the Qur'an)." Say: "Bring you then ten forged surah (chapters) like unto it, and call whomsoever you can, other than Allah (to your help), if you speak the truth!" [Qur'an 11:13]

Or do they say: "He (Muhammad(P)) has forged it (this Qur'an)?" Nay! They believe not! Let them then produce a recital like unto it (the Qur'an) if they are truthful. [Qur'an 52:33-34]


2) Secondly, Qur'an has been preserved (Written & Oral) right from its revelation by Angel Gibraeel.
Please read the attached documents for details.

[shadaab]

As salamu'alaikum,

Masha'ALLAH informative reply,Jazkal'ALLAH khairan.

After a detailed thinking and ALLAH's help....there were few points which i wanted to discuss with you.

what i was trying to say was ,unless and until one have total Imaan on Prophet (SAW) ,
his Emaan on Quran is weaker.If a person rejects Ahaadeth ,how can he believe on Quran?
which have been revealed on Prophet Muhammad (SAW)..Isnt it true.

It was the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) who told us that ,Quran is ALLAH's words.

More over , Islam and logic cannot be the same.Ther are many things in the Quran and Ahaadith ,
which are logically unacceptable.And once a person rejects them ,he is out of Islam.This is what Religion Islam is..Submitting our will to the will of ALLAH (AWT).

A person believes in Hell and Hells torment , because it is mentioned in the Quran and he denies the Grave's torment, because it is not mentioned in the Quran..though it has an authentic proof from Ahaadith (like Bukhari..).

I dont know,why people like this perform salaah ,other than fajr and asar?
As these are the only two salaah mentioned in the Quran..not others.

Is ALLAH (Nauzubillah) not happy with 2 salaah's mentioned in the Quran ?why 5 times a day?

These kind of logics have given orientalists , chances to open their mouths against Islam.
And these logics have even gone to an extent that a person says.."May be the ayah of the Quran ,in which ALLAH is taking responsibility of guiding Quran,is manupulated and could be innovation from Sahaba or other people." in basic terms "daeef""weak or manupulated".

May ALLAH guide us all and keep us away from the deadlist thoughts of shaitan and his followers.

The main cause of borning a new sect in Islam, is the thought.Thinking against the thinking of Salaf of Islam(i.e.Sahaba).

"O ALLAH show us the straight path"
"The path of those,whom you have favoured.,
Nor of those ,who earned your anger.nor of those, who have gone astray".AMEEN.

Jazak'ALLAH khairan.

[mohammad arif ansari]

assalaam walaikum wr wb!! my brothers..
brother shadaab...just to let u know dat i am actually unaware whether the issue of azaab-e- kabr was lately dicussed or not.

but it was no reason to be very rude,

[A person believes in Hell and Hells torment , because it is mentioned in the Quran and he denies the Grave's torment, because it is not mentioned in the Quran..though it has an authentic proof from Ahaadith (like Bukhari..)
I dont know,why people like this perform salaah ,other than fajr and asar?
As these are the only two salaah mentioned in the Quran..not others.]

Its hurting statement, may be u dint intended which only u and allah subhan wa talah knows better,

well i will try to research about it ......prophet pbhm says let all ur brothers know wat u know abut islam....whts wrong if i ask my own brothers answers to queries which i aint able to find....

allah bless us all

assalaamwalaikum wr wb

[Mohammed Shahid]

Walaikum assalam wr wb,

Brother Arif, I think and Im sure Br.Shadaab is not talking about you when he made that statement.

He I believe is reffering to general Muslims who do not believe in authentic proof.

Let there not be any confusion.

Assalam alaikum.

[shadaab]

As salamu'alaikum,

Dear ,

Let me make it clear that ,all my statements were for general public.
And to be honest..i have to use these kind of straight statements , so that it
directly touches the heart of a person.

But donot be preconcieved , and when you have been given an authentic proof..
please accept it ,rather than debating on it.

And once again ,dont take it personal.This is a general discussion board and there are people who read our discussions ,without participating in it.
So be practical and straight forward...so that it helps all to make our Emaan more powerful and ready to fight the misconceptions.

JazakALLAH khair.

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